Received: from superior.it.gvsu.edu (superior.it.gvsu.edu [148.61.1.10]) by csf.Colorado.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.4/CNS-4.1p-nh) with ESMTP id IAA25556 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:46:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from gvsu.edu (send.gvsu.edu [148.61.1.77]) by superior.it.gvsu.edu (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA27924; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccMail by gvsu.edu (ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02) id AA910712777; Tue, 10 Nov 98 10:46:20 -0500 Message-Id: <9811109107.AA910712777@gvsu.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 98 10:45:06 -0500 From: "Gayla Jewell" To: , Subject: Re[2]: Request for Info - Culture & Healthcare MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Much is being written about the issue of use of nurse practitioners in managed care and in the health care system, in general. Below is a list of a few articles my students have brought to me. This is just a sampling. Managed CAre, Nurse Practitioners and Discrimination by Nancy Sharp in Nursing Management, 26(9), 90-94. Managed Care Organizations' Arrangements with Nurse Practitioners by Diana Mason, et a. in Nursing Economics. Nov-Dec, 1997, 15(6), 306-314. Advanced Practice Roles for Nurses in Tomorrow's Healthcare Systems by Ann Berger, et al. in Clinical Nurse Specialist, 10(5), 250-255. Administrative Issues for Use of Nurse Practitioners by Sellards & Mills in JONA, 25(5), May, 1995, 64-70. Measuring the Impact of Advanced Practice Nursing on Achieving Cost-Quailty Outsomes: Issues and Challenges by Carroll & Fay in Nursing Administratiion Quarterly, 1997, 21(4), 32-40. Estimating Costs of Underusing Advanced Practice Nurses by Nichols in Nursing Economics, 1992, 10(5), 343-350. A Nurse Practioner-Led, Collaborative, Outpatient Practice: A Case Study in Outcomes Management by Cook & Nolan in Seminars for Nurse Managers, 1996, 4, 154-162. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Request for Info - Culture & Healthcare Author: at internet Date: 11/9/98 4:35 PM Gene- I would add that there is reason to believe that managed care is shifting the balance of power away from physicians. While they are still the nominal primary care providers within health plans, an increasing amount of patient interaction is taking place with nurse practitioners. While they are nominally under the license of the physician, they are required to make independent judgements and they seem to have considerable autonomy in the patient-system encounter. I have not seen any systematic study of this, but I offer it as an observation from the clinics of Mid-Missouri. Andrew =============================================================================== Andrew C. Twaddle www.missouri.edu/~ansar Professor of Sociology University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211 for non- MU related phone 573+882-7031 correspondence please use fax 573+884=6430 ansar@gwi.net ============================================================================== On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Eugene B. Gallagher wrote: > I was interested to learn via Gayla Jewell that there are now some 15 or > so non-physicians for every doctor who provides medical information to > patients. I did not know the ratio was that high. > > I am not entirely satisfied however that a simple body count of health care > workers answers the question about influence and authority in the > health/medical field. I think that all providers should their due with > regard to number of hours of service logged and number of patients seen. > But how many of those non-physician providers are working under the > authority or legal shadow of an MD? Going back to Paul E. Starr's notion of > "cultural authority", would it make sense to say that physicians have a > great deal of-- a preponderant amount- of CULTURAL authority, while all the > others in the body count hold the overwhelming preponderance of SOCIAL > authority. By SOCIAL I mean roughly face-to-face contact. I don't know > quite what I do mean by CULTURAL not how I would index or measure it. If > you hold with CULTURAL/SOCIAL, what rough measures would you propose? Or > is the whole notion of CULTURAL/SOCIAL hopelessly obscurantist -- or > perhaps still worse, cozying up to the most powerful profession? > > Gene Gallagher, University of KentuckyAt 12:30 PM 11/9/98 -0600, you wrote: > >AMen.. > > When Hessler and I were doing our text more than a decade ago, we > >found hundreds of articles on physicians, a handful on nurses, and only > >scattered work on any other health occupation. We lamented that at the > >time, and things have still not changed. > > > >=========================================================================== > ==== > >Andrew C. Twaddle www.missouri.edu/~ansar > >Professor of Sociology > >University of Missouri > >Columbia, MO 65211 for non- MU related > >phone 573+882-7031 correspondence please use > >fax 573+884=6430 ansar@gwi.net > >=========================================================================== > === > > > >On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Gayla Jewell wrote: > > > >> > >> We are well past time that physicians are looked to as the primary > >> source of information or data from the health care field. About 16 > >> other kinds of providers exist for every physician. Patients spend > >> incredibly more time with nurses than with physicians. By focusing > >> mostly on physicians, med sociologists inadvertantly perpetuate the > >> "cultural authority" (Paul Starr) and hegemonic dominance of the > >> medical profession. We must begin to look more thoroughly at the > >> health care profession and various of providers of care and not just > >> the "medical field". > >> This comment is not meant to point fingers at you, Melvin. I'm > >> venting my frustration at an academic group who espouse critical > >> analysis....yet continue to support physician hegemony. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ______________________________ Reply Separator > _________________________________ > >> Subject: Request for Info - Culture & Healthcare > >> Author: at internet > >> Date: 11/5/98 9:32 AM > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hello Everyone. > >> > >> Does anyone know of books, journal articles, or other materials that > provide > >> discussion on conflicts that arise between patients and physicians (or > other > >> allied medical personnel) who hold different/conflicting cultural > beliefs about > >> what constitutes appropriate diagnosis and treatment of health problems? > >> > >> Any information you can provide will be appreciated. > >> > >> Melvin Bobo > >> Department of Sociology > >> Iowa State University > >> e-mail: melb12902@sprynet.com > >> > >> > >> > > > > >