Article 20164 of alt.conspiracy: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa From: jad@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU (John DiNardo) Subject: Part 2, U.S. Gov't Complicitous in Blowing Up Americans on Pan Am 103 Message-ID: <1993Feb5.164213.5239@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Followup-To: alt.conspiracy Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: UVA. FREE Public Access UNIX! Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1993 16:42:13 GMT Lines: 136 I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) SAMORI MARKSMAN: If the case made by the Bush Administration against Libya is a faulty one, what, then, did happen to Pan Am flight 103? Who bombed it, and why? And if Libya was not behind it, then why isn't the Bush Administration willing to have the International Court of Justice or other international bodies thoroughly investigate the matter before issuing ultimatums and military threats? Dave Emory is an intelligence research analyst based in California. DAVE EMORY: There is no substantive evidence of Libyan executive control of that terrorist act. There have been reports of involvement of elements of Libyan intelligence at some level. But the single most important thing, to my way of thinking, concerning the Pan Am 103 bombing, is that there is substantive evidence of involvement of elements of United States intelligence in the background of the Pan Am 103 downing. One of the things that is not generally too well understood is that the United States intelligence system -- our intelligence agencies -- are anything but a monolith. Even the CIA is badly fractionalized. There are elements of the CIA which work at cross- purposes [to each other], and, beyond that, there are elements of our other intelligence agencies which work at cross-purposes, as well; although there are elements of our intelligence system which will oppose drug dealing. There are also other elements which enthusiastically engage in drug dealing. And, beyond that, the same is true of terrorist support activities. And the two often go together. There are elements of United States intelligence which oppose terrorist support activities. There are others which have actively collaborated with the same, for a variety of reasons. The Iran-Contra scandal brought that into sharp focus, although we were being told that "we do not deal with terrorists," in fact, we obviously DO deal with terrorists. Now the Pan Am 103 insurance investigators' report, which was put together by a private intelligence agency called Interfor, implicates a Syrian drug dealer and terrorist name Manzur El-Khassar, who, it was reported -- well actually, it was documented -- that he was involved with [U.S. Marine Colonel and aide to President Reagan] Oliver North and Albert Hakim, and that Manzur El-Khassar helped to broker a key weapons deal that involved the Aria[sp] ship, a Danish ship, which was used to transfer the weapons to Central America, ultimately destined for use by the Contras. In the Interfor Report, there is a discussion of an off-the-shelf United States intelligence operation, which they term "CIA One", which was using Manzur El-Khassar in order to help locate American hostages in Lebanon. In exchange for this, they were actually covering for Manzur El-Khassar's weapons dealing. And it eventually came to light, in the Interfor Report, that another element of United States intelligence -- a team headed by U.S. Army Major Charles McKee, a DIA team which was seconded to CIA -- was in Lebanon, looking for U.S. hostages. This team not only came across Manzur El-Khassar, but discovered Manzur El-Khassar's active collaboration with another element of United States intelligence. When the "McKee Team" (as it was known) reported their discovery, not only of the location of some of the U.S. hostages, but also reported their discovery of Manzur El-Khassar and his collaboration with another element of United States intelligence, according to the Interfor Report, CIA Headquarters did NOTHING. At that point, the McKee Team decided to return to the United States and to report directly to CIA Headquarters about what they had discovered. When the McKee Team booked passage on Pan Am flight 103, they were apparently observed by Syrian intelligence, and this was reported directly to Manzur El-Khassar. According to the Interfor Report, he, in turn, informed his "control". And when the West German Federal Police (the BKA, the Bundes Kriminal Ampes[sp]) asked whether or not they should interdict the bomb, according to the Interfor Report, the "control" structure of Manzur El-Khassar told them to let it go. One of the questions that I have concerns exactly why that was done. Was it actually done to protect the operation with Manzur El-Khassar? Or was it done to interdict the McKee Team, and thereby assure that the obviously illegal and outrageous activities of this particular faction of United States intelligence would go unreported? It is probable that elements of United States intelligence would have actively opposed what this other element was doing. And I'm not sure whether the failure to interdict the Pan Am 103 bomb was to protect the hostage rescue mission -- which was the rationalization for collaborating with Manzur El-Khassar -- or whether it was to protect this faction of United States intelligence from discovery and from possible prosecution. According to the Interfor Report, Manzur El-Khassar was also involved in trafficking weapons, both to Iran and to the Contras, in both directions of the Iran-Contra Operations. Another interesting question concerning the Pan Am 103 bombing, concerns the compromising of a United States intelligence operation called "MC-10", based out of Nicosia, Cyprus. This operation appears to have used the United States Drug Enforcement Agency as a cover. In an article in the London Times of July 22, 1991, it is revealed, in an interview with a member of that team named Lester Coleman, a DIA agent, that this MC-10 operation, from which the McKee Team was culled, was quite apparently blown, from the inside. A number of its agents had been assassinated, and at that point, they concluded that it was time to shut down the operation. Many of the agents went into hiding. It is also interesting that there was a great deal of CIA attention to the effects of the McKee Team which were destroyed on Pan Am 103. The mother of one of the members of this team was told that her son's personal effects had been destroyed due to national security. And three CIA agents -- who were in Berlin investigating the Pan Am 103 bombing -- were assassinated, according to a report in the British Guardian of August 2nd of last year. (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The American Public is evidently in dire need of the truth, for when the plutocracy feeds us sweet lies instead of the bitter truth that would evoke remedial action by the People, then we are in peril of sinking inextricably into despotism. So, please post the episodes of this ongoing series to computer bulletin boards, and post hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. The need for concerned people, alerting their neighbors to overshadowing dangers, still exists, as it did in the era of Paul Revere. That need is as enduring as society itself. John DiNardo