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From: jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (John DiNardo)
Subject: Part VI, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: North America
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 15:53:10 GMT
Message-ID: <1992Sep16.155310.24072@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy.jfk
Keywords: researchers' revelations about the assassination of President Kennedy
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     I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a 
     broadcast by Pacifica Radio station
          WBAI-FM (99.5)
          505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
          New York, NY 10018       (212) 279-0707

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GARY NULL:
We're also going to talk about proof of fraud and disinformation
campaigns WITHIN the assassination research community, and how a
United States Senator and two former Presidents personally
covered up facts in the case. And we're also going to talk about
proof that bullets WERE removed from the President's body at
Bethesda Naval Hospital before the autopsy began. That's just
some of what we're going to talk about today. New information;
very powerful information. And, contrary to what my first guest
suggested (and I respect that each guest can have their own point
of view, and everyone has the right to have a point of view, even
if it differs with other people on the show) he suggested that
there was no hard data. This is as good data as can be produced.

Now I'm going to ask our guest, Jim Marrs, you're going to have
about ten minutes, and Harrison Edward Livingstone, you're going
to have about ten minutes. You can take a break, because you're
talking on the commercial-free Pacifica Radio station in
New York, WBAI, 99.5 FM, a 50,000 watt station. I've been here
for fifteen years. We work for free -- those of us on the air,
and we ask, three times a year, for pledges from the station's
listners to help support our efforts.

    [JD: My apologies for missing the subsequent discourse.  
     I'm trying to obtain a tape of it. If and when I do, 
     I'll promptly transcribe it for you. However, I have taped 
     numerous hours of information covering the succeeding
     episodes in the series. So the following transcript resumes
     the discussion with the next day's broadcast in the series.]

GARY NULL:
Alright, David, if you could, please, would you go through this
evidence in some detail?  You're making a lot of statements and a
a lot of allegations. We'd like you now to substantiate the
differences between the official version.

DAVID LIFTON:
Okay. With regard to the casket, for example, the witness who
opened the casket .... the persons who saw the casket come in the
back door of Bethesda Naval Hospital, and who actually unloaded
it are Dennis David, the chief-of-the-day at Bethesda Naval
Hospital and a man named Don Rabbatisch [sp] who was actually one
of the casket toters, so to speak -- who took it out of the black
hearse in which it arrived.

The account of Dennis David is that he is at the back of the
hospital. He is in charge of part of the security function. He is
told that the President's body is going to arrive there. They go
down. The black hearse pulls in. He assembles some of his men.
Don Rabbatisch is one of them. They bring the casket inside. 
A black hearse pulls up. There's a group of plainclothesmen and
two men in O.R. smocks. They get out of the ambulance. The
shipping casket (and that's what it was: a shipping casket) is
removed from the black hearse. It is brought onto the loading
dock and it is brought to the door of the morgue. In the door of
the morgue is Paul O'Connor. He's the medical technician listed
in the FBI reports, and who is also listed in the official Navy
records, and in the House Select Committee records. He opens the
casket which is a shipping casket, according to O'Connor. Inside
the shipping casket is a body bag. He unzips the body bag, puts
the President's body, along with others in the morgue, on the
table. He said that when the wrapping was removed from the head
area, there was a gasp in the room, and he said: "and I looked
down and said, `My God, there's no brain!'"  And you could see
this. It was apparent. The FBI, at that time, writes notes. They
write a report that weekend. In their report, which was not
published with the Warren Commission documents, but is at the
National Archives, they write that when the body was removed from
the casket in which it was transported, it was (quote) "apparent
that there had been surgery to the head area; namely in the top
of the skull."  And that's the official record. That's the
evidence.

Now, the Warren Commission did not know about most of this
evidence that I am talking about here. They did not perform this
kind of analysis. They did not establish what, in law, is called
a "chain of possession" on the body. So the Navy commander who
performed the autopsy simply comes before the Commission, raises
his right hand and testifies as to the condition of the body.
And they accept that autopsy report which states that President 
Kennedy was shot twice from behind, based on wounds you see on
the body which were NOT on the body in Dallas, if you compare
Dallas versus Bethesda -- Dallas being where the President was
shot, Bethesda being where the autopsy was performed six hours
later. Based on the Bethesda wound pattern, President Kennedy IS,
or appears to be, in fact, shot twice from behind. Based on the 
Dallas wound pattern, he was NOT.

Now ordinarily, you would trust the autopsy over the accounts of
the doctors at Dallas, because the autopsy is better evidence.
It's, in fact, the "best evidence". It's based on the body of the
President. But the irony is that, in this case, there is a
subterfuge, and, in fact, the body was altered. That's what my
book was all about: persuading the reader that there is evidence
that the body was altered, and that this is the reason why the
evidence looks the way it does. I might just add that if you
start with this evidence in 1992, the same evidence that they had
in 1963, unless this autopsy is overturned, you're going to come
to the same conclusion: that Oswald shot the President. This
autopsy is the legal foundation for that whole house of cards.
It cannot collapse unless the autopsy is overturned in a
definitive fashion.
                      (to be continued)
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      If you agree that this story deserves broad public attention, please
      assist in disseminating it by posting it to other bulletin boards,
      and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. 
      As evidence accrues concerning the corporate mass media's thirty-year
      cover-up of the corporate CIA's coup d'etat against the People of 
      the United States, the necessity of citizen reportage becomes
      ever more striking.

      John DiNardo