Article 15716 of alt.conspiracy: Xref: cbnewsl alt.conspiracy:15716 alt.activism:33588 alt.society.civil-liberty:6104 alt.individualism:13083 alt.censorship:10394 talk.politics.misc:109393 misc.headlines:29678 soc.culture.usa:8458 Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa Path: cbnewsl!jad From: jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (John DiNardo) Subject: Part II, The Casolaro Murder --> The Feds' Theft of Inslaw Software Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Distribution: na Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:13:27 GMT Message-ID: <1992Sep11.151327.11342@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Followup-To: alt.conspiracy Keywords: CIA = Murder Inc., CIA shreds the People's Constitution Lines: 112 I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) [Bill Hamilton is the chief executive officer of the Inslaw Corporation (a software company) and the developer of its PROMIS software package.] PAUL DeRIENZO: I know that you won your suit and that there were some appeals by the government. Has that been completed yet -- the legal proceedings? BILL HAMILTON: No. The government appealed from the bankruptcy court to the U.S. District Court. The U.S. District Court, in November, 1989, affirmed the bankruptcy court saying that the evidence was sufficient to support the findings (quote) "under any standard of review." (closed quotes). Then the Justice Department appealed again to the United States Court of Appeals this time. And a three- judge panel in May said, on a narrow jurisdictional ruling, that we won the case in the wrong federal court. We should have tried it in a different federal court. We are currently seeking certiorari from the U.S. Supreme Court because we think that the U.S. Court of Apppeals jurisdictional ruling was in error. But when the U.S. Court of Appeals made its jurisdictional ruling, it left undisturbed the findings of the bankruptcy court that had already been upheld by the district court: that the Justice Department stole six million dollars worth of our software through "trickery, fraud and deceit", and then tried covertly to drive Inslaw out of business. PAUL DeRIENZO: Have you received any settlement on that? BILL HAMILTON: I've never received a penny! And the forty-two largest United States Attorneys' offices are still running their caseloads with software that two federal courts said was deliberately stolen by the U.S. Department of Justice headquarters in Washington. PAUL DeRIENZO: And that was Bill Hamilton, the chair of Inslaw, a software producing company in Washington, D.C. that has been battling the United States Government since the early 1980's and whose case led to another window into the workings of the "Secret Team", "the Octopus", and the death of Danny Casolaro. ROBERT KNIGHT: This is UNDERCURRENTS. You've just heard Bill Hamilton, a man at the center of a pattern of deception, corruption and implications that are so tremendous that it's difficult to even encompass them all. This is WBAI, New York. before continuing, it is essential that you call this radio station. Because now, as Bill Hamilton says, the issue has been joined. What can you expect from the Federal Government if, indeed, it is involved in such a wide-ranging conspiracy? Well, we know that what we're going to do is continue to pursue this and bring you the kind of information you've been listening to for a solid half-hour this morning here on UNDERCURRENTS. (212)279-3400 is the number to call. If you want to have an independent reportorial investigative arm, support us now and let us know that this is important to you. Let me just try and delineate some of the implications of this. A reporter gets close to the story. A reporter ends up dead. A reporter looks into something that is so big that it involves a global conspiracy. Let's just take one little aspect of that: the case-tracking abilities of this software. You remember, during this interview that Paul DeRienzo produced, that Bill Hamilton said that copies of that software ended up in places like Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and around the world. In countries .... PAUL DeRIENZO: Iraq, as well, in 1987. As a matter of fact, Richard Secord, according to an Iranian arms dealer who is now in jail, made the sales pitch. ROBERT KNIGHT: Let's recall who Richard Secord is. The former commander of the air wing in Vietnam. In it's program, Dang Pao (?), the ambiance out of which was shipped a crippling incapacitation of heroine into the United States. He ends up involved with Southern Air during the Iran-Contra period, and those airplanes are used for shipping arms out of this country, and are used, according to various reports that you've heard here and elsewhere, for shipping cocaine into the United States. (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This is one of countless stories unveiling the deeply corrupted and subverted state of our theoretically democratic Government. This story makes disgustingly obvious the fact that patriotism is not the waving of flags, the tying of yellow ribbons and the supporting of the Government, just because it happens to be ours. You don't support cancer just because you happen to have it. Patriotism is telling the truth to the people of our country in order that they may unite to conquer the anti-democratic cancer that is gradually destroying ours and our children's freedom. So please post the installments of this ongoing series to other bulletin boards, and post hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. That would be a truly patriotic deed. John DiNardo