Welcome to... _________________________________________________ | \ | S T R A N G E W A Y S > |________________________________________________/ A forum for Morrissey and The Smiths. Volume 1, Issue #4 General Information from Kevin: Well, it looks like the mailing list is catching on and we can boast a membership of about 75 people (How about an exact number, Michael?). If you want to post something to Strangeways, send mail to kkawado@bonnie.ics.uci.edu. It would be nice to put a subject line detailing what you are talking about since I basically just copy your mail into a file and when the file gets big enough, send it out. Please keep the "STRANGEWAYS" header on the subject line so I can keep Strangeways mail seperate from other mail. If you want to join the mailing list, please send mail to Michael.C.Massengale%mac.dartmouth.edu. Michael is keeping track of the mailing list so blame him if you don't get a copy :-). Just kidding Michael. Without him, none of this would have started. If for some strange reason you do not want to continue receiving Strangeways, also send mail to Michael. I would appreciate it if you didn't send mailing list request to me from now on since I've got enough mail from Strangeways posts. As Douglas pointed out, we are now starting to get more and more people from overseas. Please begin to reference "American" domestic CDs as "American" and imports by their respective nation of of release. We can no longer assume that everyone is from America :-). I think it's easiest to say that unless you make a specific reference to a currency besides the American dollar, all dollar figures shown are in American dollars. If we find that this gets too confussing in the future, the policy will be changed. I believe right now we have about 10% of Strangeways overseas. Well, that's it for now...enjoy. =K= "Won't somebody stop me from thinking all the time" ----- Date: Tue, 26 Feb 91 10:44:47 -0500 (EST) From: Marc Howard Anderson Subject: Strangeway Sounds great. Please sign me up (or whatever you're gonna do about it). As a starter - how about any info concerning the Smiths B-sides "Wonderful Woman" and any other unreleased songs. Have you heard this song? Also, I heard a rumor a while back that there were plans to possibly release a collection of Smiths unreleased songs including a cover of New Order's "Blue Monday". Has anyone else heard similar rumors? Finally, I was told that "Kill Uncle," Morrissey's new album, was going to be released on March 26th. Have you heard anything? ----- Date: 26 Feb 91 18:39:31 From: Michael.C.Massengale%mac.dartmouth.edu@ICS.UCI.EDU Subject: Forwarded from Gary L Dare : Re: STRANGEWAYS catalogue Michael.C.Massengale@mac.dartmouth.edu writes: > >And what about Canada - did they get Louder Than Bombs or The World >Won't Listen and Hatful of Hollow? In Canada, we got "Louder Than Bombs" and "Hatful of Hollow" on Sire Canada; I'm told that the CD version of "Hatful" is an import, which means UK manufacture but not necessarily a higher price. Import laws are different up north, where the distributor often imports to fill holes in the catalogue. Unless a CD is of rare availability in Canada, you should be paying the domestic price for it (~C$22). gld PS: Nicole, you missed the live album "Rank"! ----- Date: Tue, 26 Feb 1991 16:12 CST From: "happy the man." Subject: Strangeways Thanks for the discography, Nicole. What about compilation albums that the Smiths/Morrissey have appeared on? On the "Just Say..." series from Sire Records, I've got "Work is a Four Letter Word," "Will Never Marry," and... oh, I can't remember the other two. Kevin, how about putting a "How to post..." reminder in each issue header? Dean. ----- Date: 27-FEB-1991 09:55:43 GMT From: NMF%ABERYSTWYTH.AC.UK%pucc.princeton.edu@ICS.UCI.EDU Subject: Mozz peely sessions. John Peel mentioned trying to get moz to do some peel sessions, but nother (nothing rather!) seemed to come of it. Its also unlikely that the smiths did 3 peel sessions, because although strange fruit dont release all peel sessions to the shops, they only release records which are gonna sell, and i shoudl think any smiths session would sell. Nick. P.s. Im nick from Wales, im not welsh im from Manchester (so much..etc..) and am a computer operator in UCW Aberystwyth. Ive been into the smiths since about '86 and have got all their albums other than _louder..._ and all of mozzes. I thought Bona drag was a good bridge, with all the singles and b sides, well worth a tenner for the cd. [ Although they may not have been called "Peel Sessions", the tracks from the John Peel Show on BBC Radio One are on _Hatful Of Hollow_ (it was listed in the credits ...I didn't even know until I looked at the CD again). Someone mentioned this earlier. (It was Lars in Strangeways #3). =K= ] ----- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 21:06 +1100 From: Douglas.Miller%vax1.viccol.edu.au@ICS.UCI.EDU Subject: Strangeways > [ As far as I know, Morrissey does NOT write his own music. If you look > at the credits of recent singles, you'll see that people like Armstrong, > Street and Rourke write the music. I agree...no one can really match > Marr's musical abilities. =K= ] Morrissey is only ever credited with lyrics, but I've always felt that he is being too modest --- he surely has a major part in writing those brilliant and inventive vocal melodies. The fact that this aspect of his songs remains despite half a dozen co-writers is strong evidence for me. ----- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 21:23 +1100 From: Douglas.Miller%vax1.viccol.edu.au@ICS.UCI.EDU Subject: Strangeways - international etiquette > [ By the way, for those of us who don't know such as myself, what exactly > is "international etiquette"? What are we doing wrong...I apologize > if I've offended anyone overseas. =K= ] Simply put, it means not assuming your reader is in the same country as you, e.g., Wrong Right ===== ===== "I got it for $300" "I got it for HK$300" "domestic release" "Australian release" "... is not on the import version" "... is not on the UK version" [ Thanks...if you didn't catch the opening remarks about international "etiquette", please read it again. =K= ] ----- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 21:49 +1100 From: Douglas.Miller%vax1.viccol.edu.au@ICS.UCI.EDU Subject: Strangeways I've just heard a song from "Kill Uncle" on the Australia-wide station JJJ FM. It is supposed to be in the shops here next week. On a first listen "Sing Your Life" appeals to be more than the three songs on the last single. Some snippets of the lyrics (as heard by me, of course!): Sing your life Any fool can think of words that rhyme and And those who sing off-key They stole the notion from the likes of you and me ------ Date: 27 Feb 91 15:32:04 From: Michael.C.Massengale%mac.dartmouth.edu@ICS.UCI.EDU Subject: STRANGEWAYS >While I'm on this particular >hobbyhorse, I would request that everyone >follows "international etiquette" >when referring to "imports" and currency >figures. I've never heard of this before either, but I'm starting to get an idea. I recently got flamed for referring to domestic releases (I'm sorry - and no, Americans DON'T think the entire world revolves around them). [ Sure they do :-) ] A couple of months ago, while I was at home for Christmas, the local radio station played the entire concert that Rank was taken from. I don't remember all that much about it, but I do remember that How Soon Is Now? was one of the tracks. Has anyone else heard this? Maybe taped it? I have a friend in Texas who taped at least part of it, but I know that it wasn't that great a copy. Also, I'd like to see a track listing for Better Live Than Dead. On the subject of bootlegs, what other ones are available? There have to be more than I've seen talked about here (1). I've heard of one from Australia that has the dance mix of This Charming Man, but that's it. One last thing: I heard today at the radio station that Kill Uncle has Piccadilly Palare on it. IS THIS TRUE? Morrissey sure knows how to squeeze every dollar out of a song. I sure wish he'd stop doing this. It's getting too expensive - I want ALL new music on this disc (it'll probably only be 40 min. anyway). Oh well, I guess I'll never learn... Michael :-) [ The new discography, coming out very soon (probably tomorrow if not sooner) includes the tracks to _Better Live Than Dead_. I'd like to see a list of any other bootlegs out there. =K= ] ----- From: kkawado@bonnie.ics.uci.edu Subject: Strangeways Tape Duplication Lars, If you're interested in doing some tape duplications, I can send you the concert that KROQ played one evening and the Morrissey interview from KROQ last year. I'm sure people would be interested. If there's a demand, I could also send you a copy of _Better Live Than Dead_ to duplicate, too. Who is interested in what? (and what else is there to offer?) =K= ----- I'm modifying the Smiths/Morrissey discographies courteously typed in by Nicole and Michael (respectively) to include some of the items that were missed (such as the bootleg and a few singles I have). This will be mailed off seperately within the next few days (I need to check some things at home first). =K=